yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 16:30

复工第一天,公司CEO要辞退我 ?能有N+1的补偿吗 ?

<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">今天,是复工的第一天。公司</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">找我谈话,问我年前软件项目的进度情况。因为没谈到一起,说让我走人!</span></span></span></p>

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<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">大概情况如下:</span></span></span></p>

<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">我来这家公司</span>3<span style="font-family:宋体">年了,入职时,待遇是月薪税前</span>6000<span style="font-family:宋体">元。现在还是这个待遇。</span></span></span></p>

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<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">1<span style="font-family:宋体">月</span>20<span style="font-family:宋体">日放春节假,</span>2<span style="font-family:宋体">月</span>2<span style="font-family:宋体">日收假。</span></span></span></p>

<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">年前,有个软件的项目,原计划是</span>3<span style="font-family:宋体">月</span>20<span style="font-family:宋体">日完成,也就是</span> <span style="font-family:宋体">正常上班的情况下,上班后约</span>48<span style="font-family:宋体">天</span> <span style="font-family:宋体">完成。原本,是要到</span>3<span style="font-family:宋体">月底,</span>4<span style="font-family:宋体">月初的。在</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">的一再催促下,才定到</span>3<span style="font-family:宋体">月</span>20<span style="font-family:宋体">日。这个年前是写了</span> <span style="font-family:宋体">进度计划的,并上交公司会议讨论的。是按照工作日写的,也就是说,假期内是不算时间的。</span></span></span></p>

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<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">春节后,因为疫情影响,直到今天才复工。</span></span></span></p>

<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">期间(</span>2<span style="font-family:宋体">月</span>15<span style="font-family:宋体">日),公司说经营困难,</span>1<span style="font-family:宋体">月的工资发了</span>1500<span style="font-family:宋体">元。不久,</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">问我软件的进度情况:抱怨说我不主动和他联系,影响了进度。过了几天,我们小区解封了,能上班的可以上班了。我就找</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">,说明情况,回复是,公司还不能复工。我说,我把样机、资料带到家里做,时间进度就按节前制定的来。</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">说等他回复。直到今天,复工了。</span></span></span></p>

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<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">今天,上班不久,</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">找我谈话,问我:</span>4<span style="font-family:宋体">月能完成不?</span></span></span></p>

<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">4<span style="font-family:宋体">月的</span>30<span style="font-family:宋体">天,加上</span>3<span style="font-family:宋体">月的</span>14<span style="font-family:宋体">天,是</span>44<span style="font-family:宋体">天。可能有些紧张,我说,按照年前的</span> <span style="font-family:宋体">进度计划,时间顺延,应该到</span>5<span style="font-family:宋体">月初了。</span> CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">说:不行,要辞退我!让我准备工作交接的事情。</span></span></span></p>

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<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:宋体">说句实在话,其实,加加班,</span>4<span style="font-family:宋体">月也是可以完成的。但是,公司不让在公司加班,让回家加班。家里有影响,肯定会影响进度的,这是其一。其二是,</span>1<span style="font-family:宋体">月份工资发了</span>1500<span style="font-family:宋体">元,本身就有怨言!所以,和</span>CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">谈话时,情绪有些激动,声音高了</span>&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;</span></span></p>

<p style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">CEO<span style="font-family:宋体">说,我不用上班了,让我立刻走人</span>&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;</span></span></p>

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<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">我说:</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="margin-left:24px; text-align:left; text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">1.</span></span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">公司辞退我,要给我</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">N+1&nbsp;</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">的补偿;</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="margin-left:24px; text-align:left; text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">2.</span></span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">补发</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">1</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">月份少发的工资。</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">CEO</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">说,他们(指他和老板等人)商议后回复我。</span></span></span></span></span></p>

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<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">说明:</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">月薪组成:</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">基本工资</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">3300</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">元</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">+</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">绩效工资</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">2200</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">元</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">+</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">午餐补助</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">500</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">元,共</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">6000</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">元。</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">请教:</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">1.</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">我提的</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">&nbsp;2</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">条要求</span></span></span>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">是否合理?能否实现?</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">2.</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">N+1</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">补偿</span></span></span>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">指的是</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">&nbsp;N+1&nbsp;</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">个月的税前工资呢,还是</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span style="color:#444444">&nbsp;N+1&nbsp;</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">个月的基本工资?</span></span></span></span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></span></p>

<p align="left" style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:宋体"><span style="color:#444444">谢谢!</span></span></span></span></span></p>

辛昕 发表于 2020-3-16 16:56

<p>合理,但不见得能实现<br />
建议直接找劳动局先联系<br />
并告诉老板,你已经这么做了</p>

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<p>不开玩笑,认真的。</p>

<p>这种拖字诀,老夫见多了。<br />
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sint27 发表于 2020-3-16 17:03

<p>没记错的话是往前推一年内的平均月薪,不是基本工资</p>

<p>实际上没参与仲裁过,不是很了解</p>

yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 17:21

辛昕 发表于 2020-3-16 16:56
合理,但不见得能实现
建议直接找劳动局先联系
并告诉老板,你已经这么做了

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不开玩笑,认真 ...

<p>&ldquo;但不见得能实现&rdquo;<img height="50" src="https://bbs.eeworld.com.cn/static/editor/plugins/hkemoji/sticker/onion/Onion--63.gif" width="50" /></p>

yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 17:22

sint27 发表于 2020-3-16 17:03
没记错的话是往前推一年内的平均月薪,不是基本工资

实际上没参与仲裁过,不是很了解

<p>就是2019年 我的 平均工资,对吗 ?</p>

bigbat 发表于 2020-3-16 17:25

<p>工资基数是按基本工资算的。也就是<span style="color:#333333"><span style="color:#444444">基本工资</span></span><span style="color:#333333"><span style="color:#444444">3300</span></span><span style="color:#333333"><span style="color:#444444">元。你到哪里去都是这样算,你老板如果人品超好除外。再说了做软件的月薪6K,我看趁早别干了。如果地方不大的话,不建议走什么劳动仲裁什么的。弄僵了对你不利。公司多数会说你人品不行!</span></span></p>

eric_wang 发表于 2020-3-16 17:34

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<blockquote><font size="2"><a href="forum.php?mod=redirect&amp;goto=findpost&amp;pid=2955074&amp;ptid=1113723" target="_blank"><font color="#999999">bigbat 发表于 2020-3-16 17:25</font></a></font> 工资基数是按基本工资算的。也就是基本工资3300元。你到哪里去都是这样算,你老板如果人品超好除外。再说了 ...</blockquote>
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<p>和你想法基本一致。</p>

<p>楼主如果还想在当地这个圈子工作,这事最好不要弄僵。</p>

<p>可以咨询当地劳动仲裁权衡利弊再做决定。</p>
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qwqwqw2088 发表于 2020-3-16 17:36

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'><p>这个公司肯定不能待了。</p>

<p>签有劳动合同没?</p>

<p>如有,不能就这么随便了,不是钱的事</p>

<p>大胆利用法律武器,或找政府部门的劳动仲裁</p>

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yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 19:29

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'>qwqwqw2088 发表于 2020-3-16 17:36
这个公司肯定不能待了。

签有劳动合同没?

如有,不能就这么随便了,不是钱的事

大胆利用法律武器 ...

<p>谢谢版主!</p>

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<p>没签劳动合同</p>

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<p>公司交的社保 可以 作证吗 ?</p>
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yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 19:32

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'>bigbat 发表于 2020-3-16 17:25
工资基数是按基本工资算的。也就是基本工资3300元。你到哪里去都是这样算,你老板如果人品超好除外。再说了 ...

<p>以前做硬件,主要是 画板子</p>

<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>软件很菜,但想转到软件上来,所以,就硬着头皮 接下了软件的任务</p>

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<p>别干 咋办吧 ,喝西北风嘛</p>

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<p>已经说僵了,人品是次要的</p>
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qwqwqw2088 发表于 2020-3-16 20:44

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'><p>&ldquo;来这家公司3年了&rdquo;&ldquo;没签劳动合同&rdquo;&ldquo;公司交的社保&nbsp;&rdquo;</p>

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<p>1.某些单位没有签订劳动合同但是却又社保。后遗症是离职转移档案时档案资料不全,会被新单位(如果转到灵活就业那就是社保的灵活就业管理处)退回。</p>

<p>2.不签订劳动合同后果</p>

<p>  按照《劳动合同法》和《劳动合同法实施条例》的规定,用人单位自用工之日起不与劳动者订立书面劳动合同的,应承担以下三种责任:</p>

<p>  1、自用工之日起满一个月的次日至满一年的前一日应当依法向劳动者每月支付二倍的工资;</p>

<p>  2、自用工之日起满一年的当日视为已经与劳动者订立无固定期限劳动合同,从满一年的当日起不再支付二倍工资;</p>

<p>  3、应当立即与劳动者补订书面劳动合同。</p>

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qwqwqw2088 发表于 2020-3-16 20:46

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<blockquote><font size="2"><a href="forum.php?mod=redirect&amp;goto=findpost&amp;pid=2955105&amp;ptid=1113723" target="_blank"><font color="#999999">yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 19:29</font></a></font> 谢谢版主! &nbsp; 没签劳动合同 &nbsp; 公司交的社保 可以 作证吗 ?</blockquote>
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<p>可以看看这里,因为有外链接回复不到帖子中。</p>
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hotsauce1861 发表于 2020-3-17 08:15

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'><p>先稳住,然后找一下别的公司,拿到offer直接甩脸走人吧</p>
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bigbat 发表于 2020-3-17 09:09

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'>bigbat 发表于 2020-3-16 17:25
工资基数是按基本工资算的。也就是基本工资3300元。你到哪里去都是这样算,你老板如果人品超好除外。再说了 ...

<p>我只是按照常规的符合法律的条款给你点意见而已。你也没有和公司有什么超级约定。个人感觉还算不错的处理结果。没有想办法折腾你,让你主动的离职。公司想辞退你,也躲不掉的!如果你会造核子弹什么的那另说。不会就认命!!!</p>
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yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-17 09:36

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'>bigbat 发表于 2020-3-17 09:09
我只是按照常规的符合法律的条款给你点意见而已。你也没有和公司有什么超级约定。个人感觉还算不错的处理 ...

<p>好沙雕</p>
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yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-17 09:38

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'>qwqwqw2088 发表于 2020-3-16 20:46
yhyworld 发表于 2020-3-16 19:29 谢谢版主! &nbsp; 没签劳动合同 &nbsp; 公司交的社保 可以 作证吗 ?
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<p>找到了</p>

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iushiyuan 发表于 2020-6-22 10:14

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'>hotsauce1861 发表于 2020-3-17 08:15
先稳住,然后找一下别的公司,拿到offer直接甩脸走人吧

<p>像你这样说的话,人家公司直接让你交接走人了,不会留的</p>
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iushiyuan 发表于 2020-6-22 10:15

<div class='shownolgin' data-isdigest='no'><p>坐来下谈才是正道,走法律,耗不起时间,第二个会留下案底或同行印象,对自己的职业不利的</p>
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